diff --git a/libs/ardour/midi_region.cc b/libs/ardour/midi_region.cc
index a070d9364f..abaf6d3484 100644
--- a/libs/ardour/midi_region.cc
+++ b/libs/ardour/midi_region.cc
@@ -104,10 +104,12 @@ MidiRegion::MidiRegion (boost::shared_ptr<const MidiRegion> other)
 /** Create a new MidiRegion that is part of an existing one */
 MidiRegion::MidiRegion (boost::shared_ptr<const MidiRegion> other, frameoffset_t offset, const int32_t sub_num)
 	: Region (other, offset, sub_num)
-	, _start_beats (Properties::start_beats, 0.0)
+	, _start_beats (Properties::start_beats, other->_start_beats)
 	, _length_beats (Properties::length_beats, other->_length_beats)
 {
-	_start_beats = (_session.tempo_map().exact_qn_at_frame (other->_position + offset, sub_num) - other->_quarter_note) + other->_start_beats;
+	if (offset != 0) {
+		_start_beats = (_session.tempo_map().exact_qn_at_frame (other->_position + offset, sub_num) - other->_quarter_note) + other->_start_beats;
+	}
 
 	update_length_beats (sub_num);
 	register_properties ();