diff --git a/gtk2_ardour/editor.cc b/gtk2_ardour/editor.cc
index 972583d57d..8bca7211fe 100644
--- a/gtk2_ardour/editor.cc
+++ b/gtk2_ardour/editor.cc
@@ -126,6 +126,7 @@
 #include "region_layering_order_editor.h"
 #include "rgb_macros.h"
 #include "rhythm_ferret.h"
+#include "route_sorter.h"
 #include "selection.h"
 #include "simple_progress_dialog.h"
 #include "sfdb_ui.h"
@@ -5219,21 +5220,6 @@ Editor::add_routes (RouteList& rlist)
 	add_stripables (sl);
 }
 
-struct PresentationInfoEditorSorter
-{
-	bool operator() (boost::shared_ptr<Stripable> a, boost::shared_ptr<Stripable> b) {
-		if (a->is_master()) {
-			/* master before everything else */
-			return true;
-		} else if (b->is_master()) {
-			/* everything else before master */
-			return false;
-		}
-		return a->presentation_info().order () < b->presentation_info().order ();
-	}
-};
-
-
 void
 Editor::add_stripables (StripableList& sl)
 {
@@ -5243,7 +5229,7 @@ Editor::add_stripables (StripableList& sl)
 	TrackViewList new_selection;
 	bool from_scratch = (track_views.size() == 0);
 
-	sl.sort (PresentationInfoEditorSorter());
+	sl.sort (StripablePresentationInfoSorter());
 
 	for (StripableList::iterator s = sl.begin(); s != sl.end(); ++s) {
 
diff --git a/gtk2_ardour/editor_routes.cc b/gtk2_ardour/editor_routes.cc
index 3c4766f79e..6141203827 100644
--- a/gtk2_ardour/editor_routes.cc
+++ b/gtk2_ardour/editor_routes.cc
@@ -839,6 +839,7 @@ EditorRoutes::time_axis_views_added (list<TimeAxisView*> tavs)
 	_display.set_model (_model);
 
 	/* now update route order keys from the treeview/track display order */
+
 	if (!from_scratch) {
 		sync_presentation_info_from_treeview ();
 	}
diff --git a/gtk2_ardour/mixer_ui.cc b/gtk2_ardour/mixer_ui.cc
index ef3228375a..196a53647a 100644
--- a/gtk2_ardour/mixer_ui.cc
+++ b/gtk2_ardour/mixer_ui.cc
@@ -64,6 +64,7 @@
 #include "actions.h"
 #include "gui_thread.h"
 #include "mixer_group_tabs.h"
+#include "route_sorter.h"
 #include "timers.h"
 #include "ui_config.h"
 #include "vca_master_strip.h"
@@ -479,8 +480,11 @@ void
 Mixer_UI::add_stripables (StripableList& slist)
 {
 	Gtk::TreeModel::Children::iterator insert_iter = track_model->children().end();
+	bool from_scratch = (track_model->children().size() == 0);
 	uint32_t nroutes = 0;
 
+	slist.sort (StripablePresentationInfoSorter());
+
 	for (Gtk::TreeModel::Children::iterator it = track_model->children().begin(); it != track_model->children().end(); ++it) {
 		boost::shared_ptr<Stripable> s = (*it)[stripable_columns.stripable];
 
@@ -589,8 +593,9 @@ Mixer_UI::add_stripables (StripableList& slist)
 	no_track_list_redisplay = false;
 	track_display.set_model (track_model);
 
-	sync_presentation_info_from_treeview ();
-	redisplay_track_list ();
+	if (!from_scratch) {
+		sync_presentation_info_from_treeview ();
+	}
 }
 
 void
@@ -687,6 +692,10 @@ Mixer_UI::sync_presentation_info_from_treeview ()
 			continue;
 		}
 
+		/* Master also doesn't get set here but since the editor allows
+		 * it to be reordered, we need to preserve its ordering.
+		 */
+
 		stripable->presentation_info().set_hidden (!visible);
 
 		if (order != stripable->presentation_info().order()) {
diff --git a/gtk2_ardour/route_sorter.h b/gtk2_ardour/route_sorter.h
index 1450a2c09b..e84788243c 100644
--- a/gtk2_ardour/route_sorter.h
+++ b/gtk2_ardour/route_sorter.h
@@ -24,6 +24,8 @@
 #include <stdint.h>
 #include <vector>
 
+#include "ardour/stripable.h"
+
 struct OrderKeys {
     uint32_t old_display_order;
     uint32_t new_display_order;
@@ -41,4 +43,10 @@ struct SortByNewDisplayOrder {
     }
 };
 
+struct StripablePresentationInfoSorter {
+	bool operator() (boost::shared_ptr<ARDOUR::Stripable> a, boost::shared_ptr<ARDOUR::Stripable> b) {
+		return a->presentation_info().order () < b->presentation_info().order ();
+	}
+};
+
 #endif /* __gtk2_ardour_route_sorter_h__ */